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  Still doing business with the BEAST...?

  by stevenyc in

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  check out this pdf.

  in perticular, the customer list.

  steve

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  Mr Ben

  I wonder what they actually sold or donated to the UN.....?
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  id JWs RIP you OFF in the MARRIAGE Dept.?

  by Ms. Whip in

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  this photo (taken from a jw group on aol) is quite typical of jw marriage matches.

  don't get me wrong, i'm sure they are great people as far as jws go.

  but, it made me think.

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  Mr Ben

  The whole Dub shootin' match is one large fuckup. I saw one guy at a circuit assembly with his new bride. he was maybe 35, she was mabe 80 or 90! She's gonna grow young again real soon now, real soon now....

  Did I say how glad I am to be out!

  Mr Ben
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  Pay Up..............NOW!!!!!!!

  by enlightenedcynic in

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  2. scandals

  i am neither shocked or suprised anymore with the actions of the wts, but i have to admit, from time to time they do some s**t that makes me say, "wish i could pull that off".

  at meeting yesterday, the p.o.

  makes an announcement.

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  Mr Ben

  No surprise there then!!

  YOU pay for it, YOU build it, but THEY OWN IT.

  Bend over and take it little dubs, bend over and take it....

  $$$$BEN$$$$
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  "deliverance at hand!"

  by freefly in

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  2. beliefs

  yesterday a.m. -a little knock at my front door, i answered to see a man at the end of my driveway who turned around saying "i just left an invite with your newspaper...have you read the front page news about the chopper crashes linked to drug scheme (more than 40 people arrested in major cross-border smuggling case)" i looked down at my newspaper and saw "deliverance at hand!

  " title of invitation...(cordially invited to attend) page tucked inside.

  looked back up and he was gone.

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  Mr Ben

  Tell your partner that you have seen a lot of very disturbing evidence that the JW's are a dangerous cult. Tell him you know that they have probably already planted an idea in his head that "Satan will oppose his studying", but that because you love him you would like him to read some critical studies by people who know a lot more about the cult than he does. Remind him again that you love him and that you want him to keep this conversation private between the two of you, be sure to obtain a promise on this point. Then buy Crisis of Conscience by Ray Franz and read it together.

  You may succed in saving him from the most dangerous cult on earth.

  Best wishes,

  Mr Ben
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  I Asked My Wife A Question Yesterday

  by enlightenedcynic in

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  2. experiences

  over the last two weeks since i posted about my wife taking me to the elders, i have been working very hard to save my marriage.

  i have made arrangements for babysitting so that we can go out at least once or twice a week.

  we have taken in a movie, gone for a walk, gone to the beach, gone to the museum, gone to a jazz concert and just yesterday we went to a coffee house and talked over a nice cup of joe.

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  Mr Ben

  You are right not to directly attack the WTS. It is possible, however, to get Dubs to exercise their minds by attacking the ideas and practices of another cult. For example, reading Combatting Cult Mind Control, by former Moonie elder Steven Hassan, would allow you to discuss the Moonie cult in a way that is non-threatening to JW’s. Not only will she happily condemn the Moonies for their practices, but also, if you’re lucky, she might see the connection for herself between the two groups.

  Best of luck,

  Mr Ben
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  Best Albums

  by Nosferatu in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  let's compile a list of albums that we can listen to without skipping a single song.

  the albums that don't have a single bad song on them!

  here's mine:.

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  Mr Ben

  Steve Hillage - Green

  Lloyd Cole & The Commotions - Five Easy Pieces
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  help! what are good birthday presents for lads?

  by Cordelia in

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  i'm not too good at this birthday lark yet?.

  what can you buy a guy for his birthday?

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  It doesn't matter. Anything given with love is a treasure. But if you know what style of music he likes get him a CD. Always a winner!
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  OMG! Just had Mormons for 2 hours! What a great laugh!

  by Mr Ben in

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  ok. so who created malaria?

  mr ben oh dear.

  mr ben you mean adam & eve had everlasting life?

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  Mr Ben

  Duh! Sorry about the missing words and lack of grammar etc. in the first post. I was in rush.

  Carla – Your post was number 1914 (Are you scared?!!!)

  Finally-Free – Hahaha! What insight you have! I’ll remember that one! Cheers! Yes, I needed a beer, and had one too many!

  Greendawn – That’s why we wore suits – to give the impression of normality. It’s a trick and a scam. Though these were two girls (not in suits), which I thought was unusual for Mormons. I’ve only ever seen men preaching Mormonism before.

  Katiekitten – Yep! But we told ‘em all sorts of other crap! I didn’t join until the 90’s, so it’s unlikely that we met though not impossible as I went to lots of parties. I actually had a great social life in the Borg.

  Qcmbr – That they didn’t know the correct crap doesn’t mean it’s not crap. Who created malaria and why remains a valid question to ask, whether or not their answer was the correct crap or another kind of crap.

  And to all others cheers! (Poo about England though!)

  Mr Ben
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  OMG! Just had Mormons for 2 hours! What a great laugh!

  by Mr Ben in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok. so who created malaria?

  mr ben oh dear.

  mr ben you mean adam & eve had everlasting life?

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  Mr Ben

  OMG! Just had Mormons for 2 hours! What a great laugh! They’re more nuts than we were!

  Knock! Knock! Two ladies at the door with shoulder bags. Oh dear, thinks I. Then I notice their badges, they are Mormons.

  So I invite them in to engage them in a few insights I have as a recovering victim of a different cult. Everything said was at all times polite and in good spirits, but sometimes I just could not contain my laughter.

  I won’t bore you all with the full 2 hours but here is a little condensed snippet for your amusement, and I’ll leave the rest to your imagination!

  Mr Ben – So according to that scripture you read, God created ALL things. Yes? Ok. So who created malaria? I mean there is a specific human malaria that has an exceedingly complex life-cycle, and given that it is estimated that malaria has killed possibly one out of two people ever to have existed. So according to your belief system God created diseases that make us suffer and kill us, yes?

  Mormon – Well, before Adam & Eve transgressed [they noticeably avoided the word “sin”, any idea why?] no animals consumed each other, so malaria wouldn’t have harmed us.

  Mr Ben – I see, I see. All vegetarians, yes? Ok. By the way, that fly that’s bothering you might get eaten by the spider that’s up in the corner there. But that’s subject of great controversy, yes? I mean, spiders eating oranges!

  Mormon – Huh?

  Mr Ben – Well, of the thousands of species of spider, not one of them has a vegetarian diet. All but one species is venomous; all have a delivery system for both venom and proteins to liquefy their prey; all have an attitude becoming of a predator, stealth, sudden attack etc. How did they obtain these weapons if God had already rested on the last day?

  Mormon – Well, we cannot begin to comprehend the wonder of all God’s works.

  Mr Ben – But I did comprehend, just then, comprehension prompted the question. Do you have an answer?

  Mormon – Well, transgression has changed the nature of the whole world in the last six or so thousand years.

  Mr Ben – Oh dear. So six thousand years ago all of species of that exist on earth were all vegetarian? Yes? Ok. And in just six thousand years the majority became predatory? Did you know that maybe 99% of all living things are parasitic? Do you believe in evolution?

  Mormon – No.

  Mr Ben – But you believe that in just six thousand years nearly all living species evolved from something else? Phew! That’s a lot more evolution than I believe in!

  Mormon – Well no, I mean that’s only because Adam & Eve transgressed, everything was perfect at that time, everything had everlasting life.

  Mr Ben – You mean Adam & Eve had everlasting life?

  Mormon – Erm, no… [quite embarrassed now] I mean everything did.

  Mr Ben – Did you say everything did?

  Mormon – Yes [dismayed!]

  Mr Ben – You that fly again? Let’s suppose all its eggs hatch, things being perfect in those days, and all their eggs hatch, and so on for maybe a year, then you’d have a ball of maggots the size of the earth! Do you find that likely?

  Mormon – Well no. Actually, there were no eggs, because there was no sex and no eating or drinking or anything like that because everything was perfect.

  Mr Ben – [Laughing now] Oh my, you really are in a twizzle! Everything was vegetarian and never ate! Do you perceive any inconsistency in that?

  Mormon – Well, I’d never really thought of it like that.

  Mr Ben – That’s ok, I’ll help you. Please tell me, did God go around every single creature after the transgression and add sexual organs, wombs, stomachs, anuses, taste buds etc. Do you find that credible?

  Mormon – Well I put my faith in God.

  Mr Ben – And you do have to have an awful lot of faith to believe that, ha ha! No, no, I shouldn’t laugh. Tell me why did the dinosaurs go extinct if everything was perfect, I suppose Adam used a Tyrannosaurus Rex to plough his fields!

  Mormon – Well, actually… [hesitates, a REALLY good sign that she is mortified about the next “truth”, and sure enough…] …actually God brought all the fossils from other planets.

  Mr Ben – Waaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahah! Why not believe invisible space elephants brought them – it’s equally as likely!

  … and so on… but I can’t tell you any more as I’m off to the pub to watch England v Portugal.

  Did I say how happy I am to be out of a cult!

  Mr Ben
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  great guitarist....guitar solos...and performances

  by purplesofa in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i am collecting guitar musicians.......their music.

  i am collecting great perfomances.....rare ones of musicians that would not otherwise be together......

  i wold love your input.........and would share music with those interested.

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  Mr Ben

  Personal favourites gotta include:

  Steve Hillage: Green

  Yes: Yessongs & Gates of Delirium